XXL had Tyler the Creator interview Nas for its upcoming November issue. Here’s an excerpt that starts off delicious and…takes a dark, unexpected turn.

Do you like cheese?
I love cheese.
Cheddar or Swiss?
Swiss. Cheddar for the most of my life. Today, it’s Swiss.
Sick. That’s cool. I love fuckin’ cheddar. That’s my shit.
Why? Why did you ask?
I don’t know. I just want to know. I don’t know. What do you do, like, in your spare time? Do you play Xbox or anything?
No, I’ve actually spent a lot of time being lonely as fuck, you know? It’s like … you just do nothing.